Apr
21
The Protege System Review
Filed Under Not recommended systems | 12 Comments
This is only going to be a short review of The Protege System since I don’t think it makes much sense to run a full trial on it.
The system is a typical Adrian Massey system which uses many of the well known selection criterias you can play around with at the adrian massey site to back fit the system so it gives a profit.This is okay with some of the criterias since some of the things on adrian massey of course is relevant to find a good selection, but if you see these criterias you will see that there are some very funny rules 
It takes some time to find the selections since you need to look at many different “screens” to find out if the selection qualifies, and you can have many qualifiers in 1 race. I think many people will give up on this system because of the time factor alone. At least we have given up running a live trial based on the fact that it will take too long time and we are quite sure that it will lose you money in the long run.
If anyone tries The Protege System then please post your results in the comments field
Another system goes to NOT RECOMMENDED 
The proprietor of Chester Racing Club has sent an email to all club members advising that the protege system is up 64.72 points in the first 5 days in May.
Is he right ?
Regards, Ken
Yes that’s true, Sportsworld Publishing have sent emails out to highlight 60+ points in May. A 20/1 and 25/1 winners I think last week. Ghnatti won by B Hills last Sunday. SW website has the results I believe. I bought and paper traded mid April, down 25 points but Tony Gibson then said he doesn’t start till May. I have bought it. I think this site may have it wrong with this one.
Graeme
This system is not back fitted to Massey data as Massey does not have info on Owners in it. Thats not to say it isn’t backfitted though!
Have been using this system since 23rd April and results a little disappointing so far. A couple of big priced winners but these have been wiped out by losing days. As you often put on 20-30 bets a day, it is quite easy to have a big-priced winner wiped out by a losing day the next day.
Its a shame because I think this system has potential but needs modification. I will keep following it as I have ideas on how it could be improved.
Hello Colin
I think you may be correct. There have been some winners outside the guide. Yesterday 4.20 Newbury ‘Never Lose’ at 25/1. I’m not sure of the benefit on betting on short priced picks. In a field of 15, you may get 5 selections, is there any benefit on betting on one selection at Evens or the 2nd bet if it’s at 2/1 for example because even if the 2/1 wins, you are still 3 points down or 4 if the Evens win. I get the feeling it has been rushed out after discovering the pattern of results, which would be a surprise as Tony Gibson is very knowledgeable.
Agree Graeme. I am recording all the selections now and prices to see if cutting out the short-priced selections and only going for 10/1+ shots makes a difference. Will see how it goes.
As you say, surprising as I am generally a fan of Tony Gibson and havent known him to fabricate results, but find the 1000+ points profit simply not believable if you back all selections.
Colin
Another idea for betting could be to only place bets on the horses that will make you an overall profit on the race,eg.
20 horse race with 5 selections
Evens no bet
2/1 no bet
5/1 bet 1 point profit at worst
8/1 bet 4 points profit at worst
20/1 bet 16 points profit
Cut off with a 5 horse bet is 5/1 or 6.00 on BF. This staking could be applied to all races dependant on numbers of bets and their prices. If you bet on all 5 and Ev. win, you are still down 4 points so the bet is pointless.
Hello Graeme, your posting from May 19 hits on a fairly basic betting strategy re Protege, but I think you miss the point on this one. The illustrious Mr Tony Gibson experienced the same problem from the systems inception last year. Yet he still claims that the system made over 750 points in 2008 without any losing months. I’ve not read any write ups in the press on Protege nor of the bookies running for cover on the systems selections.
It would appear that the initial analysis review was spot on and Protege was correctly placed in the NOT RECOMMENDED category.
Ken.
You may be correct Ken, I am monitoring the system for a while with the two approaches outlined above to consider. Only time will tell whether there is a way to turn a profit from the protege system.
My only point to make is that is has produced some big priced winners so far so I am not as quick to dismiss it as you are.
Can those who bought the system confirm the latest results on the SW website? 80 pts up for July? apparently.
I’d have liked to have seen a trial on here. How can this site can dismiss this system out of hand?
If you look at the rules then you will see it is VERY MUCH BACK FITTED with some very stupid rules. But if many people get very good results then of course we can look at it again and maybe run a test, but afraid it’s going to be waste of time.
Hi All, I have obtained the results of the Protege Selective system from the man himself – Mr
Tony Gibson.
After racing on 10 October 2009 the system was up 124.65 points from the start of June. Not to be sneezed at. 4 out of the 5 months were in profit, with July up over 90 points but August was down more than 32 points.
I have now changed my opinion on Protege and believe the results show the system is at least worth knowing about.
Hope this may be of use to some. Ken.