Jan
8
The Dutching Diamond System Review
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We are going to take a look at a new system called The Dutching Diamond System.
Whenever I encounter a new system, there are three main things I try to evaluate.
1. The validity of the previous results.
2. Any clues regarding the integrity of the author.
3. The Company/Organisation of the promoter of the system.
Unfortunately, my first impressions on the above three concepts is a massive ZERO.
Looking at the promotional website of The Dutching Diamond System there are NO detailed past results, so a big negative there.
Looking at the promotional website, the author spends the first half of his article telling us his life story. I don’t want to sound too insensitive but anyone who tries to get our sympathy with an emotional story that is more at home at a “Britain’s Got Talent” audition really does sound like a desperate person. Either way, it really puts me in a suspicious mode when I see stories like that.
The Company promoting this system are Sportsworld Publishing……Enough said.
However, we have to be professional and we must test this system in an impartial manner.
The Dutching Diamond System revolves around identifying certain races where we aim to DUTCH BACK two or three horses in the same race. In isolation, the concept of backing multiple horses in the same race aiming to win a set amount regardless to which one of our selections wins is not a problem with me. However, the author claims that the key to the success of this system is its recovery staking plan.
Recovery systems are very dangerous. The nature of this recovery system is that when a loss occurs, the bet placed on the next race, not only attempts to get back our total loss from the previous race, but also attempts to win enough so that we are still averaging a one point gain from every race. Similarly, when we lose our second race in a row, the third race attempts to win back everything plus more. Likewise after three losses in a row, the fourth race attempts to win enough to negate our previous losses and win four points to keep us up with our target of winning one point per race.
The good news is that the author advocates that after four losses in a row, we take the loss and start again. The really misleading thing in the article is that the author tries to make light of the fact that this has only happened once during the system’s trial and that when it did happen the loss only came to 5% of the overall profits for that trial period. 5% of the system’s profit equate to 33.15 points. Now you need to remember that figure of 33.15 points.
When you receive the system, rather belatedly, you are shown some past results. In particular the results that occurred back on the 19th June where the system suffered its four losing races in a row.
Using a 5% commission concept, the first race would have required a stake of 3.04 points to achieve its goal of trying to win 1 point from the race.
When the race was a losing race, the stake for the second race would have needed to be 10.0 points.
When that lost, the third race would have required a stake of 73.4 points.
When that lost, the fourth race would have required a stake of 253.2 points.
So when the fourth race lost, the user of the system would have lost 340 points……slightly more than the advertised 33.15 points.
Not good news that the author blatantly misleads us into thinking that the recovery system being used is of low exposure.
As far as testing this system is concerned there are some subjective aspects of it. So that we maintain consistency we will trade EVERY race that the system throws up, regardless to the amount of profit margin that it is attempting to achieve.
We will use the BetFair SP for all our criteria testing and we will use a 5% commission charge for all of our winnings.
On a nightly basis I will report the races that the system has identified. Having identified them, we will attempt to win 1 point of profit. The key thing to focus on is the size of the stake that is needed to try and achieve our goal of trying to win the one point.
When we have a losing race, I will indicate the stake that is required in the second race. Remember that the second race in the cycle does not need to be on the same day as the first race.
I am sure we will be reporting a lot of plus one point wins on lots of races……It is just a question of If/When we suffer four losses in a row, will our bank be able to take such a hugh loss……?
Time will Tell……
Subsequently, the author is saying that only races where a 10%+ return can be achieved will be considered as qualifying races.
-Marc Chawner
Jan 14th.
Southwell 13:20
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 1.91 Points.
Laureldeans Best WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total+1.0 Point.
Total To Date: +1.0 Point.
Jan 15th.
No Qualifying Selections Today.
Jan 16th.
Kempton 12:25
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.14 Points.
Anak WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total+1.0 Point.
Total To Date: +2.0 Points.
Jan 17th ===> Jan 20th.
No Qualifying Selections For This Period.
Jan 21st.
Taunton 14:30
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 6.18 Points.
Wishfull Thinking WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total+1.0 Point.
Total To Date: +3.0 Points.
Jan 22nd.
Catterick 14:55
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 6.56 Points.
Milans Man WON (+1.0 point).
Today’s Total +1.0 Point.
Total To Date: +4.0 Points.
Jan 23rd.
Lingfield 12:35
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 7.0 Points.
Monterosso WON (+1.0 Point).
Lingfield 12:35
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 7.0 Points.
Monterosso WON (+1.0 Point).
Ascot 14:40
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 5.83 Points.
Twist Magic WON (+1.0 Point).
Ascot 16:20
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.02 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-2.02 Points).
Today’s Total +0.98 Points.
Total To Date: +4.98 Points.
Jan 24th.
Towcester 13:50
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 4.02 points was 6.83 Points.
Watamu Bay WON (+4.02 Points).
Towcester 15:25
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.44 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-2.44 Points).
Today’s Total +1.58 Points.
Total To Date: +6.56 Points.
Jan 25th.
Fontwell 14:45
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 4.44 points was 29.21 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-29.21 Points).
Today’s Total -29.21 Points.
Total To Date: -22.65 Points.
If anyone was playing this system for real……They probably would NOT get much sleep tonight.
Jan 26th.
No Qualifying Selections Today.
Jan 27th.
Musselburgh 13:40
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 34.65 points was 135.09 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-135.09 Points).
Today’s Total -135.09 Points.
Total To Date: -157.74 Points.
Having had THREE losses in a row, the next race will be our last chance to get recoup our losses.
Jan 28th.
Warwick 13:15
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 170.74 points was 221.88 Points.
Hunterview WON (+170.74 Points).
Warwick 14:55
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 4.38 Points.
The Hollinwell WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total +171.74 Points.
Total To Date: +14.0 Points.
I am sure that if you had been involved in the Warwick 13:15 today, you would have had your heart in your mouth when Riskareas”, NOT one of the horses that had been dutched in the race, went 1.12 in-running. If that horse had won, then the entire bank would have been wiped out. As it is, another 1.0 point to the good……Albeit it took a stake of 170.74 points to achieve the desired result…….The system fights on for another day……For the moment……
Jan 29th.
Doncaster 16:15
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.23 Points.
Bostons Angel WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total +1.0 Point.
Total To Date: +15.0 Points.
Jan 30th.
Cheltenham 15:10
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 6.56 Points.
Restless Harry WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total +1.0 Point.
Total To Date: +16.0 Points.
Jan 31st.
No Selections Today.
Feb 1st.
Wolverhampton 15:15.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.14 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-2.14 Points).
Wolverhampton 17:20.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 4.14 points was 11.47 Points.
Hacienda WON (+4.14 Points).
Today’s Total: +2.0 Points.
Total To Date: +18.0 Points.
Feb 2nd.
Taunton 14:40.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 3.00 Points.
Kings Forest WON (+1.0 Point).
Southwell 16:00.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.28 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-2.28 Points).
Today’s Total: -1.28 Points.
Total To Date: +16.72 Points.
Feb 3rd.
Exeter 16:50.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 4.28 points was 14.53 Points.
Diamond Brook WON (+4.28 Points).
Today’s Total: +4.28 Points.
Total To Date: +21.0 Points.
Feb 4th.
Clonmel 14:45.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 5.83 Points.
Quito De La Rogue WON (+1.0 Point).
Clonmel 15:45.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.28 Points.
Whinstone Boy WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total: +2.00 Points.
Total To Date: +23.0 Points.
Feb 5th.
Catterick 15:20.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 5.53 Points.
Truckers Hall WON (+1.0 Point).
Catterick 15:55.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 1.19 Points.
Ockey De Neulliac WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total: +2.00 Points.
Total To Date: +25.0 Points.
Feb 6th.
Doncaster 13:20.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.19 Points.
Tazbar WON (+1.0 Point).
Lingfield 14:00.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.14 Points.
Ginger Grey WON (+1.0 Point).
Sandown 14:05.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 4.57 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-4.57 Points).
Wetherby 15:55.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 6.57 points was 5.53 Points.
Robbers Glen WON (+6.57 Points).
Today’s Total: +4.00 Points.
Total To Date: +29.0 Points.
Feb 7th.
Fontwell 13:50.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 6.56 Points.
Orzare WON (+1.0 Point).
Musselburgh 14:30.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.56 Points.
Carlito Brigante WON (+1.0 Point).
Leopardstown 14:40.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 1.72 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-1.72 Points).
Leopardstown 15:45.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 3.72 points was 12.23 Points.
Joncol WON (+3.72 Points).
Today’s Total: +4.00 Points.
Total To Date: +33.0 Points.
Feb 8th.
Wolverhampton 17:00.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.02 Points.
Peace Corps WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total: +1.00 Points.
Total To Date: +34.0 Points.
Feb 9th.
Market Rasen 13:30.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 1.75 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-1.75 Points).
Today’s Total: -1.75 Points.
Total To Date: +32.25 Points.
Feb 10th.
Lingfield 13:25.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 3.75 points was 10.14 Points.
Bebopalula WON (+3.75 Points).
Ludlow 14:20.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.84 Points.
Heathcliff WON (+1.0 Point).
Fairyhouse 14:50.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 5.25 Points.
Jagoes Mills WON (+1.0 Point).
Ludlow 16:30.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 1.94 Points.
Bob Hall WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total: +6.75 Points.
Total To Date: +39.0 Points.
Feb 11th.
Southwell 14:50.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 3.00 Points.
Spin Again WON (+1.0 Point).
Huntingdon 16:10.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 1.35 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-1.35 Points).
Today’s Total: -0.35 Points.
Total To Date: +38.65 Points.
Feb 12th.
Bangor 13:35.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 3.35 points was 27.13 Points.
Rackham Lerouge WON (+3.35 Points).
Kempton 14:00.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 0.65 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-0.65 Points).
Bangor 16:30.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 2.65 points was 5.47 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-5.47 Points).
Today’s Total: -2.77 Points.
Total To Date: +35.88 Points.
Feb 13th.
Lingfield 13:25.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 9.12 points was 18.82 Points.
Dream On Buddy WON (+9.12 Points).
Gowran Park 13:35.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 0.85 Points.
Capellanus WON (+1.0 Point).
Ayr 14:10.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 3.75 Points.
Gansey WON (+1.0 Point).
Gowran Park 14:35.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 5.83 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-5.83 Points).
Gowran Park 15:10.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 7.83 points was 45.79 Points.
J’Y Vole WON (+7.83 Points).
Lingfield 16:05.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 4.2 Points.
Ajjaadd WON (+1.0 Point).
Today’s Total: +14.12 Points.
Total To Date: +50.00 Points.
Feb 14th.
Navan 13:40.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 7.5 Points.
Kerb Appeal WON (+1.0 Point).
Navan 14:10.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 2.76 Points.
War Of Attrition WON (+1.0 Point).
Hereford 15:25.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 9.55 Points.
Kerada WON (+1.0 Point).
Kempton 15:45.
3 Selections Dutched.
Stake Required to win 1 point was 0.56 Points.
All 3 Selections LOST (-0.56 Points).
Today’s Total: +2.44 Points.
Total To Date: +52.44 Points.
Summary:
Well, we have been at this one now for a complete month and hopefully everyone, by now, is getting the idea of the system. At the end of the day, it is down to everyone’s individual choice whether this system suits their requirements. I for one have never been a big fan of recovery systems. You only have to look at the action on January 28th to see that we were having to make a stake of some 170 points to try and win a couple of points. On that occasion we got away with it by the skin of our teeth, however, it really is just a matter of time before our luck runs out and our entire bank will be wiped out.
I will let you decide in what section you think this system should reside…..I like my sleep at night, so I will be steering very clear of this one……
Hi! Well done as ever for your professional and thorough attitude! I must say the betting turnover seems incredibly high. I actually Dutch bet for a living and really never ever have to invest more than 1.5 points to win 1 point!! That is the attraction of dutching to me at those odds I can afford to miss a few. 17 points to win 1 -not for me for sure!
Hi, I’m following your review on this system.
Does the price (95 pounds) include a daily e-mail with the horse selection? I’d have to pay 95 pounds every three months? Is it how this works?
Thanks a lot.
Hi Joao,
The selections are available via an 0844 telephone number every day from 11:30am. The brevity of the message means you are paying something like 4 to 5 pence per phone call.
As for what happens after 3 months……Who knows…..I guess he has worked out that within three months, statistically we would have all been wiped out……
Dutching can be very damaging on you pocket if you don know what your doing.The odds need to be below
90% and you will not get those odds in small fields.
Go to http://www.bettingprofitsoftware.com this programe
will help you more than any on that form of betting.
Good luck.Robert
Just had an email from a loophole guru £39 down
£315 when you make your first £1,00 ha ha dont fall for it if you get one,form this swave git.
Robert.
5 points in 10 days is not a bad result…
But Joao, look at the losing days! You would need a 1000 point bank to cover the losses! Even then you would need balls of steel to put on the third bet just to win 1 point! Not for me.
Well i am totaly sick of that loss recovery shyster stuff…..
Loss recovery makes everything look good even the “Throw a Dart at the Card Superdoublewhopper chopper Selection Diamond System”
If something isnt profitable at level Stakes its probably shit on loss recovery either !
Dutching is an ok way of making money if the Selections have an edge as betting singles is with an real edge. An edge means you make money regardless what you Back or Lay –> Thats because its an EDGE (That is spelled E-D-G-E).
Playing around with fancy staking is just Bollocks.
Try to find Race Winners 0,5% more often then the Mob and you are good to go. Its “Simple Stuff”
This of course cannot be achieved by feeding your Money to the Shysters (Spartswoarld in particular or any other for that matter),… it can be achieved by browsing databases for hours without End and by statistical rating models,.. thats the way forward. It reqiers TIME + EFFORT + PATIENCE + a shitload of other Virtues + Initial Money.
Learn to compile USEFULL RATINGS is surely better than 99% of the “Superduper Systems” Floating around on the Net.
Enough said,…. well maybe one thing more.
HANG THE SHYSTERS BY THE NECK
I am outa here…. for now
Enough said
Joe surely you ment BALLS.
Listen up all of you out there,you will not make this game pay bye buying systems from Gangsters.
I have to admit that I have fallen for them myself
who hasn’t but a time comes when you have to realise your being dupped,they are laughing all the way to the bank,I hate them. The way to make it pay lay or back is to get the stats Adrian Massey.co
is one of the best its all there, At the races too is strong stuff,finally the R Post go through all
cards find a race you fancy read up on spotlight
look at the first 5 in the betting, then go to top trainers/top jockeys look at the % for each one at the track you will then get a good idea of how they have performd over the last 4/5 years.
To day at Musselburgh 3.50 for me it came down to
Amanda Carter& Palomar the later is racing on Saturday due to go up 4lb giving away 17lb to day,
2nd fav in the post no way was that going to win,
came third, Caravel 1st, I layed Polomar,they didn’t
want it to win.Learn the tricks otherwise you will
continue to get stung.
Yours Robert
Avoid http://www.bettingprofitsoftware.com
Last months they have been selling services related to the Pro software which is not running anymore and not refunding the customers.
because the complaints (they don’t answer emails to the customers) in their forum, they just switch off the forum …
Why dont you all just give up laying/betting……you are all crap at it by the sound of it…..so just dont bother and stop ctying about it!!!!
watch out for bettingprofitsoftware.com .i bought BET-IE .just garbage and they refused t refund me when their trashy software stopped working