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Four The Win 2 Review - Horseracing system

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Here I will test FourTheWin 2 horse racing system. I will also come with a review when I feel I have enough information to give a fair review of Fourthewin 2

What is the system Fourthewin 2 like?

Four The Win 2 is actually a very easy system to implement that has been well tested up to it’s release.

Four The Win 2 lays horses with a max odds around 2.50 and many of the lays are under even. It has a good strike rate which should mean that even with a flat staking plan will it earn you money.

Four The Win 2 contains a staking plan which should help you earn more money, and will maximum ask you to lay 5 times your initial stake.

It takes around 10 minutes each day to find some qualified horses (very simple rules).

I look forward to running this live test. If anyone wants to join me then please buy the system through one of my links, then you support this site and makes me able to do more tests of other systems.

Read more about this system here

UPDATE 4th July: FINAL VERDICT SO FAR AND MY FINAL REVIEW OF FOUR THE WIN 2

I had help from Dieter to run this test so I think it will be fair to start with his oppinion since he has been finding the selections and using the system.

“What I like about the system is
* The rules that have to be followed are very simple.
* It does not take more than 20 minutes in the morning to find the posssible selections of the day.
What I don’t like is the staking plan. As already mentioned, I am not a great fan of staking plans - I always prefer betting with level stakes.
Nevertheless, I will continue to use the system with the staking plan, as it made a pofit of about 15 point in 4 weeks.
Kind regards,
Dieter
ADMIN: My personal oppinion is that it has been a very good month. Even though one cycle went to it’s maximum loss the system still created a very good profit of around 15 units. The system also created a profit on level stakes which is just as impressive. Even in May where 3 cycles lost the system only ended up with a small loss of 5 units.
Four The Win 2 will not make you rich fast and will not give you a profit every month, but in the long run I actually think that it will turn up a nice profit. I will start to use it personally and it therefore goes in my “recommended folder”. I will of course change the status if things suddenly changes :-)
To use this system you need to be able to use around 20 minutes each day to find the selections and then you need to be able to be at the computer before the next race start to see what to bet on the selection.
Summary of the test results
Test period: 04/06 - 01/07/2008

Bets: 85
Winners: 49
Losers: 36

Strike Rate: 57.6%

P/L - Staking Plan: + 1.536
P/L - Level Stakes: + 665

Longest loosing run: 5
Longest winning run: 6

UPDATES WILL FOLLOW UNDERNEATH - all selections played with 100 starting bank

2/5 6 selections played: + 20

3/5 2 selections played: +108

4/5 4 selections played + 95

5/5 and 6/5 - Not time to play it. But it should have made you money.

7/5 2 selections played +88

P/L 02/05 - 07/05/08: +311

04/06 Kempton 18:10, Sel: KLYNCH, Odds: 2.2, Stake: 100, -120

04/06 Ripon 18:50, Sel: SWEET SMILE, Odds: 2.34, Stake: 200, -268

P/L 04/06/08: -388

05/06 NewAbbot 15:30, Sel: ACAPULCO BAY, Odds: 2.46, Stake: 300, +285

05/06 NewtAbbot 16:30, Sel: TARTAK, Odds: 1.6, NO BET/Odds below 1.7

05/06 Tipperary 17:10, Sel: AARONESS, Odds: 1.80, Stake: 100, -100

05/06 Wetherby 18:05, Sel: HIDDEN COMMOTION, Odds: 2.16, Stake: 200, +190

05/06 Uttoxeter 18:25, Sel: GEORGIAN KING, Odds: 1.65, NO BET/Odds below 1.7

05/06 Wetherby 20:10, Sel: WOTCHALIKE, Odds: 1.60, NO BET/Odds below 1.7

05/06 Sandown 20:25, Sel: EQBAAL, Odds: 1.94, Stake: 100, +95

05/06 Uttoxeter 21:05, Sel: FRONTIER DANCER, Odds: 1.56, NO BET/Odds below 1.7

P/L 05/06/08: +470

06/06 Catterick 13:50, Sel: EFFORT, Odds: 2.44, Stake: 100, +95

06/06 Catterick 16:15, Sel: ART TREND, Odds: 1.63, NO BET/Odds below 1.7

06/06 Wexford 18:10, Sel: SAGARICH, Odds: 2.40, Stake: 100, -100

06/06 Goodwood 18:45, Sel: WOOLSTON FERRY, Odds: 2.40, Stake: 200, +190

06/06 Doncaster 19:10, Sel: WATERGATE, Odds: 1.88, Stake: 100, +95

06/06 Bath 20:00, Sel: CARO GEORGE, Odds: 2.38, Stake: 100, +95

06/06 Goodwood 20:55, Sel: RED DUNE, Odds: 2.26, Stake: 100, -126

P/L 06/06/08: +249

07/06 Epsom 13:40, Sel: CONDUIT, Odds: 2.44, Stake: 200, -288

07/06 Hexham 14:15, Sel: BALLYLANIGAN, Odds: 2.3, Stake: 300, +285

07/06 Worcester 14:25, Sel: SIMONDIUN, Odds: 2.14, Stake: 100, -114

07/06 Hexham 16:40, Sel: ITZACLICHE, Odds: 2.26, Stake: 200, +190

07/06 Worcester 17:25, Sel: WATCHING FOOTBALL, Odds: 1.85, Stake: 100, +95

07/06 Curragh 17:30, Sel: SHINIAH, Odds: 2.18, Stake: 100, -118

07/06 Doncaster 17:30, Sel: TERRYS TIP, Odds: 2.32, Stake: 100, +95

07/06 Lingfield 18:40, Sel: NAVAJO JOE, Odds: 1.61, NO BET/Odds below 1.7

07/06 Newcastle 18:50, Sel: SPRING TALE, Odds: 1.85, Stake: 100, -85

07/06 Lingfield 19:10, Sel: STRAITJACKET, Odds: 1.98, Stake: 200, +190

07/06 Newcastle 19:50, Sel: MOONQUAKE, Odds: 1.5, NO BET/Odds below 1.7

07/06 Curragh 20:30, Sel: MOURINHO, Odds: 2.2, Stake: 100, -120

P/L 07/06/08: +130

08/06 Worcester 14:20, Sel: BEHERAYN, Odds: 1.6, NO BET/Odds below 1.7

08/06 Roscommon 15:25, Sel: PEACOCUS PRIDE, Odds: 1.78, Stake: 200, -156

08/06 Brighton 16:00, Sel: UCETEK, Odds: 2.0, Stake: 300, +285

08/06 Worcester 16:50, Sel: IM SO LUCKY, Odds: 1.5, NO BET/Odds below 1.7

P/L 08/06/08: +129

09/06 Folkestone 16:15, Sel: PEDIMENT, Odds: 1.75, Stake: 100, +95

09/06 Pontefract 18:50, Sel: MAIDFORMUSIC, Odds: 2.0, Stake: 100, +95

09/06 Windsor 19:30, Sel: VALRHONA, Odds: 1.90, Stake: 100, -90

09/06 Pontefract 20:50, Sel: MISSIONER, Odds: 2.4, Stake: 200, +190

09/06 Roscommon 20:20, Sel: AFASHEEN, Odds: 1.54, NO BET/Odds below 1.7

P/L 09/06/08: +290

11/06 Beverley 16:50, Sel: TABLEAUT VIVANT, Odds: 1.83, Stake: 100, +95

11/06 Leopardstown18:00, Sel: DANCING BANDIT, Odds: 2.48, Stake: 100, +95

11/06 Leopardstown 21:00, Sel: TIMARI, Odds: 1.82, Stake: 100, +95

P/L 11/06/08: +285

12/06 Yarmouth 14:20, Sel: ARGENTE PARMIGIANO, Odds: 1.90, Stake: 100, -90

12/06 Newbury 4:40, Sel: GHAIDAA, NO BET/ODDS BELOW 1.7

12/06 Fontwell 18:30, Sel: THE GOOD GUY, NO BET/ODDS BELOW 1.7

P/L 12/06/08: -90

13/06 MarkRasen 14:00, Sel: LOUDON, Odds: 2.22, Stake: 200, +190

13/06 MarkRasen 16:10, Sel: PREMIER DANE, Odds: 2.26, Stake: 100, +95

13/06 Navan 17:55, Sel: VEGAS BABY, Odds: 1.89, Stake: 100, -89

13/06 Aintree 18:05, Sel: MUTUAL FRIEND, Odds: 2.44, Stake: 200, -288

13/06 Chepstow 19:35, Sel: INQUISITIVE LOOK, Odds: 1.80, Stake: 300, +285

P/L 13/06/08: +193

14/06 Lingfield 17:55, Sel: SPARTA REBEL, Odds: 2.14, Stake: 100, +95

P/L 14/06/08: +95

15/06 Salisbury 14:30, Sel: SOFT SHOE SHUFFLE, Odds: 1.98, Stake: 100, -98

15/06 Stratford 16:20, Sel: QUARRY TOWN, Odds: 2.36, Stake: 200, -272

15/06 Doncaster 16:35, Sel: FACTOTUM, Odds: 194, Stake: 300, +285

P/L 15/06/08: -85

17/06 Yarmouth 19:00, Sel: RAGGLE TAGGLE, Odds: 1.96, Stake: 100, -96

17/06 NewAbbot 19:45, Sel: STAR OF GERMANY, Odds: 2.36, Stake: 200, -272

P/L 17/06/08: -368

18/06 Hamilton 15:00, Sel: LETHAL, Odds: 1.96, Stake: 300, +285

18/06 Leopardstown 18:05, Sel: APRIL, Odds: 1.94, Stake: 100, +95

18/06 Ripon 19:25, Sel: RIVAULX WORLD, Odds: 2.14, Stake: 100, -114

P/L 18/06/08: +266

19/06 Ripon 16:00, Sel: BEN CHORLEY, Odds: 2.0, Stake: 200, -200

19/06 Tipperary 17:55, Sel: THE GOD OF LOVE, Odds: 2.22, Stake: 300, -366

19/06 Fairyhouse 18:05, Sel: TAKASIMA, Odds: 2.3, Stake: 500, Stake: 500, +475

19/06 Great Leighs 20:00, Sel: BUDDHIST MONK, Odds: 1.96, Stake: 100, +95

19/06 Fairyhouse 20:05, Sel: GIANT AMONG MEN, Odds: 2.4, Stake: 100, -140

19/06 Leicester 20:50, Sel: MARIA DI SCOZIA, Odds: 2.0, Stake: 200, -200

19/06 Towcester 21:10, Sel: EAYSY DANCER, Odds: 2.32, Stake: 300, +285

P/L 19/06/08: - 51

20/06 Redcar 15:30, Sel: KIDLAT, Odds: 2.12, Stake: 100, +95

20/06 Limerick 17:25, Sel: WARRIOR NATION, Odds: 1.85, Stake: 100, +95

20/06 Newmarket 18:30, Sel: ROSE DIAMOND, Odds: 2.22, Stake: 100, -122

20/06 Ayr 19:15, Sel: AUGUST GALE, Odds: 2.42, Stake: 200, +190

20/06 Down Royal 20:45, Sel: FAY STREET, Odds: 1.87, Stake: 100, +95

20/06 Limerick 21:00, Sel: BALLET BOY, Odds: 1.89, Stake: 100, +95

P/L 20/06/08: + 448

21/06 Ascot 15:05, Sel: MARCATHUR, Odds: 2.34, Stake: 100, -134

21/06 Down Royal 16:40, Sel: DBEST, Odds: 2.36, Stake: 200, +190

21/06 Newmarket 17:10, Sel.: MEYDAN CITY, Odds: 2.0, Stake: 100, +95

21/06 Haydock 20:45, Sel: JACK JUNIOR, Odds: 2.06, Stake: 100, -106

P/L 21/06/2008: + 45

23/06 Kilbeggan 18:00, Sel: KALELLSHAN, Odds: 1.81, Stake: 200, -162

23/06 Windsor 18:40, Sel: POLITEIA, Odds: 2.4, Stake: 300, +285

23/06 Chepstow 20:20, Sel: VICTORIA REBEL, Odds: 1.86, Stake: 100, +95

P/L 23/06/2008: + 218

24/06 Brighton 15:00, Sel.: ZAARMIT, Odds: 1.98, Stake: 100, -98

24/06 Beverley 15:15, Sel: FILIGREE LACE, Odds: 1.94. Stake: 200, +190

24/06 NewAbbot 19:00, Sel: CORNISH FLAME, Odds: 2.2, Stake: 100, -120

24/06 Newbury 19:55, Sel: SOLAR DANCE, Odds: 2.16, Stake: 200, +190

P/L 24/06/2008: + 162

25/06 Naas 19:00, Sel: ASTONISH, Odds: 2.36, Stake: 100, +95

P/L 25/06/2008: + 95

26/06 Great Leighs 14:10, Sel: SIR GEOFFREY, Odds: 2.26, Stake: 100, +95

26/06 Hamilton 19:00, Sel: MASTER NIMBUS, Odds: 2.2, Stake: 100, +95

PL 26/06/2008: + 190

27/06 Market Rasen 15:15, Sel: ZILCASH, Odds: 2.08, Stake: 100, +95

27/06 Folkestone 16:15, Sel: GREAT KNIGHT, Odds: 2.4, Stake: 100, +95

27/06 Chester 19:15, Sel: CORNISH ROSE, Odds: 1.9, Stake: 100, -90

27/06 Newcastle 19:55, Sel: PERSIAN SEE, Odds: 1.8, Stake: 200, -160

P/L 27/06/2008: - 60

28/06 Newmarket 13:55, Sel: WEALD PARK, Odds: 2.26, Stake: 300, -378

28/06 Lingfield 18:50, Sel: MEZZANSI, Odds: 2.4, Stake: 500, -700

28/06 Doncaster 20:15, Sel: CAPRIVI, Odds: 1.99, Stake: 100, -99

P/L 28/06/2008: - 1.177

29/06 Salisbury 15:30, Sel: SPECIAL RESERVE, Odds: 2.02, Stake: 200, +190

29/06 Curragh 15:50, Sel: TARTAN BEAR, Odds: 2.2, Stake: 100, +95

P/L 29/06/2008: + 285

30/06 Pontefract 16:45, Sel: LEE MILLER, Odds: 1.80, Stake: 100, -80

30/06 Windsor 18:40, Sel: LIKE FOR LIKE, Odds: 2.38, Stake: 200, +190

P/L 30/06/2008: + 110

01/07 Brighton 16:00, Sel: GINGHAM, Odds: 2.3, Stake: 100, +95

P/L 01/07/2008: + 95

RUNNING TOTAL: + 1.847

Comments

26 Responses to “Four The Win 2 Review - Horseracing system”

  1. Fourthewin - horseracingsystem | horseracingman.com on May 2nd, 2008 3:08 pm

    […] FourTheWin is now going to stop being available to the public. The last chance to get it is 02.05-2008 It has proven over some years to give quite good results and the author now wants to stop more people from getting it. We will test his new system Four The Win 2 very soon so stay tuned. […]

  2. loud on May 7th, 2008 4:48 pm

    yeah I’m testing this system too… now running with success :)

  3. admin on May 7th, 2008 6:04 pm

    yes it goes fine right now but a good losing streak can quickly take away all the profit… but so far so good :-)

  4. Joe on May 8th, 2008 6:55 pm

    Hi,

    Yeah a losing streak can wipe out much profit, however we have only had one for FTW since 2006 and that is displayed on the results page of my website.

    The profits far outweigh the loses and have only had one series loss in two years! This unfortunately happened recently in April so new users would be unlucky to have included that in their results.

    However long time users are certainly happy with their profits!

    Cheers

    Joe
    FTW

  5. loud on May 8th, 2008 7:26 pm

    btw admin… try to test full time punters manual… it’s really worth to try out.. I’m testing it with modified rules + my own staking plan.. around 90% strike rate for last 2 weeks.. if you wanna this book than send me email :)

  6. Harish on June 10th, 2008 10:32 pm

    Hi all,
    I am also testing FTW 2 from last 2 days which i have received free after i have bought FTW few time ago.

    FTW Option A works fine, but gives you a less selections. FTW Option B had a massive loss recently.

    I don’t understand why they have been posting results of FTW 2 on their website but just few days back they have removed all the results of FTW 2.

    is it just because of system doesn’t work?

  7. admin on June 11th, 2008 7:30 am

    All the results for Four the win 2 are also on their website, it’s just in the bottom of the page :-)

  8. Harish on June 11th, 2008 10:09 am

    Hi Admin,

    Thanks, Yes ur right, it was my mistake didn’t really scroll down enough to see the FTW 2 results.

    well anyway i am also testing it now and making some little changes to make it better that you will have little bit less selections and less lossing run as well.

    Good thing to say that their results are completely genuine and odds as well, that is the first indication of genuine system.

  9. admin on June 18th, 2008 9:25 am

    Hi Dieter, Hope you hit some winners today. Looks okay so far :-)

  10. Dieter on June 18th, 2008 10:31 pm

    Hi Admin,

    2.6 points up for ForTheWin today, two winners and one looser.

  11. admin on June 19th, 2008 9:01 am

    Not bad at all, let´s hope it will continue with these results :-)
    Well done Dieter :-)

  12. Padraig on June 19th, 2008 11:05 am

    Hello all,

    new to this site, Currently running multiple lay systems based on Flatstats.co.uk info, interested in this system, where can I get it ?

  13. admin on June 19th, 2008 12:40 pm

    Just click on the links in the text above :-)

  14. Carsoe on June 23rd, 2008 10:11 pm

    Hello.

    I was wondering..From where do you get your selections. The updated FTW2 or the “old version”. Also I would like to know when and how you place your bets. I am aware of the Greyhorse bot, but haven’t tried it yet. I guess it is very important to place your bets at the same time every time or..Do you us a bot for this trial?

    Kind Regards

  15. Dieter on June 24th, 2008 11:01 am

    Hi!

    I get my selections from the old version of FTW
    and I have not used any bot for this trial so far. Usually, I place my bets on Betfair about 5 minutes before the race starts.

    Kind regards,
    Dieter

  16. Harry on June 26th, 2008 10:15 pm

    Hi Dieter,

    If you are not using FTW2 for ur selection then how cud you manage to get so many selections everyday. As far as i know that FTW(old) selects only filly/mare. looking ur result suggest ur using new FTW2.

    just one more point for the people who wud like to use Greyhorse bot that u cant set fibbonaci staking plan so just think abt it before u subscribe.

    Regards,
    Harry

  17. Dieter on June 27th, 2008 9:17 am

    Hi Harry,

    You are right, I am using Four The Win 2, Version 1.0, April 2008. I thought the filly/mare version would be the newer one, which is obviously not the case. Sorry for the confusion.

    Regards,
    Dieter

  18. John on July 6th, 2008 9:45 am

    A word of warning…….

    Joe is quick to sing the praises of the system as having only one loss in it’s history.

    erm not quite right I’m afraid, he is forgeting to tell you that there were another TWO whilst he was on holiday and did not record on his reults.

    FTW2 is around break even for this year.

    Just though I’d give you the FULL story.

    John

  19. admin on July 7th, 2008 9:09 am

    John=> If you look at his results page FTW 2 has had 5 losing cycles this year so far. I can’t of course say what happened when he was on holiday since we did not test it, but I’m quite sure it will be added to his website.

  20. John on July 7th, 2008 1:33 pm

    Your quite right all I’m stating is that results are missing which inlude some heavy losses, and the system is around break even for the year.

    Joe is a genuine guy and I’m not trying to knock him, but he has stated he is too busy to update the result’s

    I just feel it fair to let people know so they can make an informed decision.

    And I’m sure Joe would agree.

    John

  21. admin on July 7th, 2008 1:37 pm

    I’m also sure Joe will agree he has shown to be a very supportive guy unlike many of the other system sellers out there.

    We also appriate the input. This site is about helping people to make an informed decision so all kind of feedback is appreiated so keep it coming :-)

  22. kokotoni84 on July 9th, 2008 4:02 am

    Yes,I’ve been using FTW Option A&B and it has lost heavily since April(when I started.So far,2 losing Option A cycles and 3 option B losing cycles.I find it incomprehensible that he claims this system or its derivatives only had one losing cycle in two years!It seems that you lose 3-in-a-row ALL the time and of course that fourth loss will hurt your B.R. considerably.I think that this system is a horse which won’t run (pardon the pun) Any more of this and it should be renamed FOURTHELOSS!

  23. Kent P on July 11th, 2008 4:15 am

    No commens from admin to kokotoni84, to the last hi wrote?

  24. admin on July 11th, 2008 7:31 am

    Kokotoni84 is talking about Four The win option A + B. That is NOT the same system as Four The Win 2 that DIeter has tested here.

    If people seems to have the same experiences with Four The Win 2 then I will look at the recommendation again. It performed very well in June but we could have been lucky.

    However, we try to follow the recommended systems as close as possible also afte recommening them, so that we can change the status if anything valids that.

    Keep posting comments and oppinions :-) No matter good or bad.

  25. ib on July 11th, 2008 9:32 pm

    hi
    i run ftw 2 and i think it is doing ok, i use the stakingplan too, and as joe says stop after the 5 bet, it only happen 2 time for me,that i have too pass the 5 bet,but like joe say i stopped , at the 5 bet,bescause off the staking plan i only use minnimum bet (30kr)
    best from ib

  26. casanova chris on November 3rd, 2008 6:29 pm

    Hi all,

    I spent the entire afternoon reading your reviews.
    That’s priceless, thanks for the time you spent avoiding us to et involved in a scam.
    Regarding the “Four the Win” system, did anybody try it for the football ?
    Did someone verify their (fantastic) strike rate on football ?
    Thanks
    Chris

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